indi says i am spraying anti ngo hate. i of course do not agree, but i always let readers decide for themselves(see links below). for a different opinion from indi's about specific items in my ngo posts see these blogs (chandare, sumna, ivap) and some comments in moju thread on the issue.
he also says that if i (though he puts me in a group) do not agree, i 'get nasty' with the persons disagreeing. that was a bit rich for more reasons than most people know. anyway let the readers judge after reading the posts and threads. my blog is open to everybody to read and comment as always. i always put my trust in individuals who i believe can decide for themselves.
i always try to give specific reasons and evidence for my statements and judgments. as anybody who has read my comments on blogs know i alway quote the relevant statements when i disagree. same with other evidence. read the posts and judge for yourself . i also hope others have the courtesy to advance evidence when they make sweeping judgments but that is a matter of taste.
keep in mind when you read, that intolerance of those who unsettle ones's received opinions is a common trait especially for those who are not exposed to the hard reality or to variety of opinions or society. to them availability or not of evidence does not matter as long as they can get inside their cocoon, that filter out the undesirables both people and ideas.
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anyway here is my case against those allegations, you be the judge.
on ngo issue :
check out posts and decide for yourself whether i was merely spraying hate or pointing out in detail the bias and plagiarism that was evident in the statement and report issued by the centre for policy alternatives(cpa).
here is the post containing my questions concerning the statement and the examination of its content.
here is the evidence for plagiarism in that statement
here is what i think of the actual report (belatedly published) and its content.
you can read more on that subject at moju thread concerning it.
you may read several posts by morquendi against me on the subject at nittewa
i also wrote a post pointing out fallacy of some common ngo arguments. it is for you to decide whether they are valid or not.
you are free to leave comments and point out any error. i would especially like to see some evidence that will prove my conclusions about the cpa statement and report wrong.
on being nasty :
when replying to those who disagree i point out their errors and make counter arguments. i do enjoy ferreting out and exposing the errors in their logic. i don't know whether that qualifies as being nasty.
i also treat each commenter on their merits based on their comments and their history here. so before you judge compare the different way i treated yaaro and morquendi here even though they both made similar arguments. compare also how 'nasty' i am to ashanthi who disagrees with me here with how nasty some people are to her at indi 's blog throughout .
i address any a semblance of argument even though it be buried in a lot of baseless personal attacks, and i will reply in ways i think appropriate and as always i give my reasons. its for you to judge the nastiness. i see some of those commenting on indi's post have done the same when they were similarly attacked, though i do believe that my use of language was more controlled.
anyway, reader, you are free to judge. feel free to point out where i spray hate.
he also says that if i (though he puts me in a group) do not agree, i 'get nasty' with the persons disagreeing. that was a bit rich for more reasons than most people know. anyway let the readers judge after reading the posts and threads. my blog is open to everybody to read and comment as always. i always put my trust in individuals who i believe can decide for themselves.
i always try to give specific reasons and evidence for my statements and judgments. as anybody who has read my comments on blogs know i alway quote the relevant statements when i disagree. same with other evidence. read the posts and judge for yourself . i also hope others have the courtesy to advance evidence when they make sweeping judgments but that is a matter of taste.
keep in mind when you read, that intolerance of those who unsettle ones's received opinions is a common trait especially for those who are not exposed to the hard reality or to variety of opinions or society. to them availability or not of evidence does not matter as long as they can get inside their cocoon, that filter out the undesirables both people and ideas.
---
anyway here is my case against those allegations, you be the judge.
on ngo issue :
check out posts and decide for yourself whether i was merely spraying hate or pointing out in detail the bias and plagiarism that was evident in the statement and report issued by the centre for policy alternatives(cpa).
here is the post containing my questions concerning the statement and the examination of its content.
here is the evidence for plagiarism in that statement
here is what i think of the actual report (belatedly published) and its content.
you can read more on that subject at moju thread concerning it.
you may read several posts by morquendi against me on the subject at nittewa
i also wrote a post pointing out fallacy of some common ngo arguments. it is for you to decide whether they are valid or not.
you are free to leave comments and point out any error. i would especially like to see some evidence that will prove my conclusions about the cpa statement and report wrong.
on being nasty :
when replying to those who disagree i point out their errors and make counter arguments. i do enjoy ferreting out and exposing the errors in their logic. i don't know whether that qualifies as being nasty.
i also treat each commenter on their merits based on their comments and their history here. so before you judge compare the different way i treated yaaro and morquendi here even though they both made similar arguments. compare also how 'nasty' i am to ashanthi who disagrees with me here with how nasty some people are to her at indi 's blog throughout .
i address any a semblance of argument even though it be buried in a lot of baseless personal attacks, and i will reply in ways i think appropriate and as always i give my reasons. its for you to judge the nastiness. i see some of those commenting on indi's post have done the same when they were similarly attacked, though i do believe that my use of language was more controlled.
anyway, reader, you are free to judge. feel free to point out where i spray hate.
9 comments:
Indi has been nasty to other people for a long time. I have no idea what he's bitching about.
Besides that, this is what happens when you dare to point out any flaws in NGOs - they carry out a campaign of harassment and scare/threaten you into silence.
Yeah, I think the key is keeping the personal attacks/insinuations out of it.
I'm respectful of all commentators to my blog. In the rare event of a disrespectful comeback, I find a good technique is basically not to respond in kind - to just reply to any substance, or lack thereof, in the commentator's message.
I find it's not only "nice" but a good way of highlighting the person's nastiness! Just let them speak for themselves, I say! People can see what's going on...
I dunno Indi at all..I just browsed his blog for a while just now...
Out of all the people in these blogs, I cant imagine you as someone who sprays hatred and intolerence???? Indi is obviously someone who takes things personally without seeing it from a general point of view...some people do that when something they strongly support is seriously threatened. So maybe that's what happened with Indi. You probably said something very true abt something that he personally worships...hehe...just always remember one thing mate...freedom of speech does not mean satisfying everyone's egoes...you do what you think is right and speak the truth no matter how hard it hits another's conscience...even if it's your mate. You cant help it...the truth is nothing but the truth.
TC
Keshi.
Indi = Padashow
aravinda:
thanks
you are right about the ngos. they seem to be unable to brook any criticism
darius
thanks for the advice.
i don't follow that always i do respond in kind sometimes. my fault may be.
keshi
thanks a lot for the support
freedom of speech does not mean satisfying everyone's egoes...you do what you think is right and speak the truth no matter how hard it hits another's conscience...even if it's your mate. You cant help it...the truth is nothing but the truth
that is the truth :-) you are correct as always
tc
ashanthi
keshi is the greatest i agree
I gather they are all a lot younger than us (well say by about 5 years)
probably younger
really they must all live on the same street in Cinamon Gardens.
lol. you don't know how close to the truth that is.
anon at 5/05/2006 1:35 am
i am not that sure, may be . why do you say that ?
Heyy Ashanthi :)
**I vote Keshi for President of Sri Lanka, north, east, south, west, left, right & the sooner the bloody better.
but I'd always be stuck with some single-minded ppl na...so it's really not gonna work lol! Unless ofcourse u and Sittingnut will join me :)
thanks anyways ur a swt hrt!
Sittingnut thanks!
Keshi.
My dad used to work for PLAN and some of my friends are working for InPact, NPC and others. My auntie works for Sarvodaya.
I wouldn't say that people who work at these organisations are inherently corrupt. It's just that there's no accountability (and this is fiercely defended) and any spoilers are bullied in to silence. It's just human nature. Just think about it. You're sitting on a shit load of money and there's no one to check how you spend it. At the end of the year you just have to make up some nice presentations and videos to show the donors how the money is being spent - and a lot of it is actually spent while a big chunk is skimmed.
The government criticising them only adds to their credibility.
**So long as you did not sucumb to just process but kept true to your heart & soul, you would do the right thing & the people you serve succeed.
ur spot on there Ashanthi!
Keshi.
keshi:
:-)
just mal:
thanks for sharing the information. :-)
ashanthi:
keshi is right. you are spot on about that point :-)
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