Thursday, September 04, 2008

sarah palin

i am smitten. literally.

as my last two posts may have indicated i was certainly predisposed that way. but she surpassed all expectations.

and as an added bonus she took the community organizer obambi's empty suit apart.

transcript


19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Buddy... Palin is a crazy woman...





Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."

In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."

Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there.

"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."

A video of the speech was posted at the Wasilla Assembly of God's Web site before finding its way on to other sites on the Internet.

Palin told graduating students of the church's School of Ministry, "What I need to do is strike a deal with you guys." As they preached the love of Jesus throughout Alaska, she said, she'd work to implement God's will from the governor's office, including creating jobs by building a pipeline to bring North Slope natural gas to North American markets.

"God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

http://ap.cjonline.com/pstories/politics/20080903/328138661.shtml

kasun said...

Lanka libertarian, time and again you amuse me with your libertarian stances.

How can a libertarian support palin? she looks libertarian on economical issues but she is a fat conservative when it comes to social issues. a economically liberal socially conservative is a conservative not a libertarian. Some libertarians are dumb enough to believe that libertarians should oppose abortion. Those, including palin are religious neo-cons. Bush must be the most happiest to see one of his kind on Mccains ticket.

It is one thing if obama loses to Mccain but if he loses over this woman, i pity america.

ps - good to see a sri lankan blog on libertarianism. keep writing mate.

sittingnut said...

anon at 9/04/2008 4:06 PM
you seem to be one insecure man . :-)

before you post smears propagated by lefty idiots of american media you should check them for truth
here is a list of facts and smears about palin including the one you mention.

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may be this is news to you, religious ppl pray for troops ( and projects )


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kasun:
you seem to be confused about words and there definitions.
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libertarians believe in people having the right to do what they want as long as they do not stop others exercising the same right.

i am fully aware that palin or mccain are not 100% libertarian ( i did not claim any such thing ) by that definition . if i support only 100 % libertarians, there would not be anyone to support .
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anyway she is libertarian enough in variety of issues socially, politically and economically not just economically.
you can being up issues if you want :-)

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you only mention right to abortion ( btw not "abortion", there is a difference between the right and the deed)
it is not a clear cut issue as you seem to believe, if we take account of rights of the unborn .
given that, to say, opposition to right to abortion, is not libertarian, is stupid .
(explaining my stance on this right will take a new post )

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btw there is no requirement that libertarians should be atheists ( as you seem to believe ) even though i am one.
nor is there any requirement to see bush not "the most happiest "
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btw i don't think america will ask for anyone's pity if she wins
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next time you write define and be clear about what you are talking about

Anonymous said...

Hi sittingnut, which points exactly in that list invalidate the news article about Iraq?

Palin sounds like a religious nut job to me. What does libertarianism have in common with Evangelical Christianty?

kasun said...

I think u need to understand the difference between neo-cons and libertarians. been pro private property ownership doesn't make some one a libertarian.

Republicans are just trying to paint palin as a libertarian to stop libertarian votes from going to bob barr.

nah u don't need to be a atheist to be a libertarian. But a religious fundamentalist would only rarely be fit into a libertarian.

Palin is not even close to be a libertarian.

I think the American libertarian movement is crowded with the religious right at the moment. Don't be fooled by their definitions.

At this rate i won't be surprised if you call Mahinda Rajapakse a libertarian just because he is pro defence.

keep writing :)

kasun said...

I would love if u write a post about ur stance on abortion. Because religious libertarians such as Dr No sucks big time when it comes to abortion.

sittingnut said...

anon at 9/07/2008 12:12 pm:
read
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she was praying for the troops. as i said ,may be you do not know, but almost every church does that. anglicans even pray for the queen :-)
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"What does libertarianism have in common with Evangelical Christianty?"
why should they? question is irrelevant here
clear you confusion first
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"Palin sounds like a religious nut job to me"
you (who listens to "sounds"), sounds like a plain nut job to me, :-)

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kasun :
you are unable to present rational arguments clearly
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"I think u need to understand the difference between neo-cons and libertarians"
first you have to say why is that relevant here ? to make valid argument, first you have to define those terms here.
and then say how palin is a "neo con" . mere assertion is all you have upto now.
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"been pro private property ownership doesn't make some one a libertarian. "
did i say that? no . so why are you asking that? you are getting even more confused .

btw does "pro private property ownership" or even "neo con" preclude one from being a libertarian? you imply that falsehood . why ?
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"But a religious fundamentalist would only rarely be fit into a libertarian."
what a weak pathetic argument!
you are expressing a prejudice and being irrational .
to be rational you have to prove that being religious fundamentalist precludes one from being a libertarian. then to be relevant here, you have to prove that palin is a religious fundamentalist. you have done neither.

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"I think the American libertarian movement is crowded with the religious right at the moment. Don't be fooled by their definitions."
so what is your definition of a libertarian ? unless you say that you are lost

i will repeat what i said before
"libertarians believe in people having the right to do what they want as long as they do not stop others exercising the same right."
why do you not agree with that ?
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"At this rate i won't be surprised if you call Mahinda Rajapakse a libertarian just because he is pro defence."
you are going off in a completely irrelevant and speculative tangent argument bc you are lost and unable to formulate a valid arguments to support you prejudiced irrational assertions. is that due to your ignorance or mental confusion? :-)

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"I would love if u write a post about ur stance on abortion. Because religious libertarians such as Dr No sucks big time when it comes to abortion."
??
my stance is a separate matter .
here you have to defend your claim -"Some libertarians are dumb enough to believe that libertarians should oppose abortion"
how are they dumb? mere assertion will not do in a rational discussion.
as said "it is not a clear cut issue as you seem to believe, if we take account of rights of the unborn ."

hope you will reply and be more rational and knowledgeable next time, instead of spouting unsupported irrational prejudiced assertions.
:-)
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kasun said...

Obviously either me or u are confused, big time.

Relevance of difference between conservatives and libertarians is that palin is a conservative not a libertarian.
she's not liberal on Many social issues. since you want everything from me she does not RESPECT OTHERS LIBERTY when it comes to gay issues, abortion, stem cell research or SUICIDE. Can't I even die without taking permission from palin? she's a walking bible dude, do a research before taking it from republicans.

Your definition of libertarianism is dead right. Did i say no? I think now it is my turn to say, 'be rational with your arguments'.

For some libertarians who are not so liberal when it comes to their religious faith, abortion is not a clear cut issue. Can you people ever understand the word 'unwanted children'?
Do these dumbass religious people think about the liberty of these unwanted children once they are born? Close to 40 million abortions happen every year. A libertarian should be able to understand that regulations are highly unproductive. That is why i like the stance of libertarians on drugs and that is the same reason why i say libertarians(not real libertarians) are dumb when it comes to abortion. Aren't these people human enough to understand the agony of an unwanted pregnancy?

You need to be liberal on both social issues and economical issues if you are to be a real libertarian. I am liberal on social issues but i am not so liberal when it comes to economical issues. So i am not a libertarian. Like wise palin is not liberal on social issues so i don't know how she can be called a libertarian. Is it that u are slow on making connections or u don't want to accept your mistake?

keep writing :)

sittingnut said...

kasun :
you are still making ignorant irrational assertions.

"Relevance of difference between conservatives and libertarians is that palin is a conservative not a libertarian."
LOL what is idiotic statement.
as i said
"to make valid argument, first you have to define those terms here.
and then say how palin is a "neo con" . mere assertion is all you have upto now. "
you are still using mere assertions as arguments - that is irational (hint only idiots do that so i will call you a fool from here lol)

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"she's not liberal on Many social issues. since you want everything from me she does not RESPECT OTHERS LIBERTY when it comes to gay issues, abortion, stem cell research or SUICIDE."
(btw define liberal as well. ( man,! you are a silly label peddler) lol
as i said before ( if you can read which you seem unable to do) she is not 100% libertarian. certainly with regard to gay rights and suicide.
not so in right to abortion and ( related stem cell research). which are more complex due to rights of the unborn
( btw only ignorance and total disregard for rational arguments leads you to will keep repeating "abortion" when you mean "right to abortion" )

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"Can't I even die without taking permission from palin?
who said you can't die and needs permission from palin? lol . why be so hysterical and stupid ? ran out of valid arguments?

"she's a walking bible dude, do a research before taking it from republicans.""
really ? lol
i don't take anything from anybody. i use facts and reason. it is you who is making idiotic unsubstantiated assertions( based on your ignorant prejudices) with nothing to back them up .

btw why do you hate walking bibles, if there are any ? lol @ fool

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"Your definition of libertarianism is dead right. Did i say no? I think now it is my turn to say, 'be rational with your arguments'."
you are again being irrational here. did i say you said no. you simply ignored it and said
"I think the American libertarian movement is crowded with the religious right at the moment. Don't be fooled by their definitions."
to which i replied
"so what is your definition of a libertarian ? unless you say that you are lost"
anyone can see your rationality here .
lol at the fool

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"For some libertarians who are not so liberal when it comes to their religious faith, abortion is not a clear cut issue. Can you people ever understand the word 'unwanted children'?Do these dumbass religious people think about the liberty of these unwanted children once they are born? Close to 40 million abortions happen every year. A libertarian should be able to understand that regulations are highly unproductive. That is why i like the stance of libertarians on drugs and that is the same reason why i say libertarians(not real libertarians) are dumb when it comes to abortion. Aren't these people human enough to understand the agony of an unwanted pregnancy?"

more idiocy!
first what are you saying ? you cant even express your thoughts clearly.

let me try to bring clarity to your verbal diarrhea.
you say there are "unwanted pregnancy"/'unwanted children'? yes. (did i say no ? )
but so? that is irrelevant to rational discussion

in the world where we use reason, when it comes right to abortion (again not "abortion" as your confused stupidity writes ) and libertarians, question that needs examining is the relative value of rights of the unborn and the rights of the woman . libertarians are free to be on both sides of the issue rationally . taking a side here does not make that person an anti libertarian. (question about funding for stem cell research is a subset of this issue)

if you cannot even rationally formulate your arguments .don't pretend to know what you are talking about
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another point about your use of irrelevant words . "unwanted" ,"agony " etc - do you recommend killing people bc they cause "agony" to others and are "not wanted "? facts that you use such stupid words says a lot about your confused irrationality and ignorance.
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"You need to be liberal on both social issues and economical issues if you are to be a real libertarian."
more labels without definitions.
btw i don't care what you are ? did i ask you ? lol at the fool
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"Like wise palin is not liberal on social issues so i don't know how she can be called a libertarian."
you are making another silly sweeping assertion about her and issues .

btw who called her a libertarian? did you imagine it or day dream it ? lol at the fool

as i said " i am fully aware that palin or mccain are not 100% libertarian ( i did not claim any such thing ) by that definition . if i support only 100 % libertarians, there would not be anyone to support"
she is libertarian( as i defined it ) on some social issues and on some economic issues,. and neutral on others, and not libertarian on yet others.

you seem unable to understand what is written clearly . fools are like that i suppose. lol

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"Is it that u are slow on making connections or u don't want to accept your mistake?"
what "connection" did i not make ? and what mistake did i make ?lol
if you have a brain, answer this clearly . ( at least )
lol.
i have to say i don't expect you to do so, given your clearly limited capacity as demonstrated here. i expect more idiocy, irrationality , prejudices, ignorance and plain muddleheadedness ,instead of clarity, reason or knowledge . but i do enjoy a fool to laugh at so write back . lol

Sean said...

All this about a woman who didn't have a passport until 2007 and has never left the US... ever.

Not an endearing trait for any VP (or potential president - given McCain's age) let alone the Veep of the US.

kasun said...

wow there is no need to declare war on me rite? i thought that was a friendly chat.

Have a laugh mate. You are second only to the guy who writes jathika chinthana pravahaya. All these times i was wondering why are people arguing with that guy. I don't want to do the same, arguing libertarianism with some one who seems to know only the definition of it. so this is the last comment, Mr liber.

I came up with some issues that demonstrate that palin is not so libertarian as republicans want you to believe. Don't know why u are still asking me for issues.

//i am fully aware that palin or mccain are not 100% libertarian//

you only came up with this later mate. good, understood at last. that is what me and the anonymous tried to tell from our first comments.

//if i support only 100 % libertarians, there would not be anyone to support//

there is bob barr. clearly show you are not up to date. now come up with some abusive word combinations to show that you knew this guy all along and he isn't libertarian enough.

replying to u is not very easy sitting nut cause you seem to want all the definitions of every word i say. since u look very slow take some time and think, how can i write with all the definitions? I thought you are supposed to know what is meant by liberal.

ok stick to your choice mate. I can't expect less from someone who claims to be a libertarian but prefers Mccain over Ron paul. Republicans have managed to catch one fool with their VP choice, but alas a sri lankan one.

again, keep writing. I enjoy the JCP too.

sittingnut said...

sean:
you are an insecure, smear spreading, ignorant, idiot .

she has visited kuwait, iraq, and germany ( visiting alaska national guard deployed there and wounded soldiers ) (in addition to canada and mexico) ( all this before obama did btw. ( he actually skipped visiting wounded soldiers part in germany preferring to visit a gym ) .

there are lots of pics and videos of her visits to military ( as any non idiot will find in few seconds). btw i love the one where she shoots a m16 and gets complimented for her targeting ability by an officer .

so much for your idiocy.

i don't think many ppl care or like what you find endearing - ( like getting spanked/kicked on the butt repeatedly for being an idiot )
no wonder that a little runt like you find her intimidating but then you even get scared of mice.

kasun :
"i thought that was a friendly chat."
sorry i don't have fools as friends :-)
when i see a idiot like you spouting silly rubbish i do insult and mock him for my amusement . lol
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"i don't want to do the same, arguing libertarianism with some one who seems to know only the definition of it. so this is the last comment, Mr liber. "
running away huh? .
why no answer the questions i asked if you are knowledgeable as you say . ( so that we can laugh at you some more lol)
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"I came up with some issues that demonstrate that palin is not so libertarian as republicans want you to believe. Don't know why u are still asking me for issues."
bc you did not come up with any issues that demonstrate that palin is not so libertarian than any other politician. i addressed the few things you did come up with pointing out you ignorance ( for instance on issue of right to abortion).

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"//i am fully aware that palin or mccain are not 100% libertarian//
you only came up with this later mate. good, understood at last. that is what me and the anonymous tried to tell from our first comments."

man even your lies are idiotic . anyone can see that i wrote that 100% line in my first comment here( read ). nor did i say she was libertarian in the post .
lol @ fool reduced to such idiotic lies to defend his ignorant positions.

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"there is bob barr.
what a fool . just because a party label says "libertarian" that does not mean he is 100% libertarian or that i should support him disregarding all other factors such as electability . may be you think hitler was a "socialist" because nazi party has word socialist in it ? or that east germany was democratic bc it had word "democratic" in its official name? lol

" clearly show you are not up to date. now come up with some abusive word combinations to show that you knew this guy all along and he isn't libertarian enough."
(lol anyone can see this fool's confusion here)
no i us them to show my contempt for your ignorance and stupidly as i have made clear from the start :-D

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"replying to u is not very easy sitting nut cause you seem to want all the definitions of every word i say. since u look very slow take some time and think, how can i write with all the definitions? I thought you are supposed to know what is meant by liberal."

when you say or imply things like, being religious, or ani abortion rights, or neo con , or conservative or not liberal, etc, is not compatible with being libertarian, you are merely making assertions that do not tally with reason or facts. so if you want to prove your point ,you have to engage in a rational discussion . and to do that you have to say what you mean by those words. that is what i requested you to do . you are still unable to do so .

so i do ask what do mean by "liberal"( and your other labels) ? do you take the american sense of the word "liberal" meaning someone with positions like ted kennedy? or the meaning rest of the world use ( derived from old liberal party in england ) ? they are different, in the value they place on free markets for instance.
obviously you have no clue about any of this, so you spout out your ignorant prejudices covered in labels.

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"claims to be a libertarian but prefers Mccain over Ron paul."
i have said why preferred one to other elsewhere .
since you demonstrated in your comments that you have no grasp of issues and cannot even write about them with clarity, i don't wonder that you obviously did not get it :-)
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"Republicans have managed to catch one fool with their VP choice, but alas a sri lankan one."
i call you a fool bc you are unable to explain your positions , seems ignorant about even basic knowledge about various issues and labels ( ranging from right to abortion, to what is meant by liberalism ) , and spout your prejudices as assertions without making supporting arguments. you are in other words irrational, ignorant and lacking in understanding. so i call you a fool
you are free to call me fool bc i like palin, and prefer mccain to paul or barr. lol


btw don't run away like a dog, do come back and perform . we like laughing at idiots like you .

sittingnut said...

kasun :
i know from above that getting to any depth about politics is "above your pay grade " (as obambi says), but you may perhaps understand normal opinion journalism - so with regard to barr and palin and libertarians you may want to read this article .

Sean said...

Wow! I posted my personal opinion, without any personal attacks, and received a massively hostile response. It appears I may have touched a nerve. I apologise for not reading up more about Ms. Palin’s foreign travel ‘experience’ before I made my comment.

It appears she has made 1 (one) trip outside the US and Canada to visit troops in Iraq, Kuwait and Germany (all on the same trip). After initially claiming that the Governor also visited Ireland, her spokesperson now confirms that it was just a refuelling stop. Full story here:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/09/03/palin_not_well_traveled_outside_us/

These facts (and lies regard the Ireland trip) can easily be verified by a quick google search.

Anonymous said...

Hi sittingnut, how is praying for a gas pipeline saying it is "God's will" praying for troops? How crazy is it to claim that the "task" (invasion of Iraq) is "God's will"? Seriously, is the sort of stuff you look up to? The link I provided is from a reputable news site. The link you provided is someone's blog.

From the September 15, 2008 edition of TIME Magazine (front page article on Palin) regarding her stint as Mayor of her borough in Alaska:

"As mayor she asked the library how she could go about banning books. The librarian was aghast"

Does that sound like libertarianism to you?

Sounds to me like she is one of those religious nutters who want all the Harry Potter books burnt because they deal with witchcraft.

sittingnut said...

sean :
given your smear and your despicable history here in other posts, what did you expect when you wrote another smear here ? applause? lol . you got the treatment fools like you deserve .

you said she "never left the US... ever" and as not "endearing " bc of that . 24 hours later now you say she made one trip . why should we believe you now?

instead of admitting the error, like a sour loser you still continue with the smear.
as i said "she has visited kuwait, iraq, and germany ( visiting alaska national guard deployed there and wounded soldiers ) (in addition to canada and mexico) ( all this before obama did btw. ( he actually skipped visiting wounded soldiers part in germany preferring to visit a gym ) ."
( note there was no mention of ireland)

next time before you smear check your facts .and learn to admit mistakes on your part.
otherwise i will treat you like you deserve. .

want another spanking, fool? lol

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anon @9/09/2008 2:38 pm "

read before writing

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"how is praying for a gas pipeline saying it is "God's will" praying for troops? "
it is clear that you have no idea what you are talking about
what said in reply was
"may be this is news to you, religious ppl pray for troops ( and projects )"
do you have some reading difficulty ? lol

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"How crazy is it to claim that the "task" (invasion of Iraq) is "God's will"? Seriously, is the sort of stuff you look up to? "
she said according to your own source, "Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan"
what is wrong with that ? that sort of thing ( hoping and praying that ppl are doing gods' will ) is said in every church about various things. so unless you are going to object to all church goers you have no case .

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"The link I provided is from a reputable news site. The link you provided is someone's blog.""
as for truth, you find that be checking the original sources ( where some thing is published is not relevant esp given that errors some of then since admitted in nyt and time and other so called reputable sources ) next item is a case in point where you distort some thing published in time to create a smear .

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"As mayor she asked the library how she could go about banning books. The librarian was aghast"
you leave out several things
"Stein says that as mayor, Palin was as much about promoting conservative values as about promoting growth. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast.That woman, Mary Ellen Emmons, couldn't be reached for comment."
this is sourced to one person, stein. do you know who that is? the mayer she defeated .
more from story " Palin ended up dismissing almost all the city department heads who had been loyal to Stein" "Chas St. George, a Palin friend who worked on Stein's campaign, says he has no reason to dispute Stein's recollection of events but doesn't remember Palin's conduct as beyond the pale"
clearly stein is no reliable source

given the fact that time earlier printed smears that were since discredited ( like her membership of alaska independence party ) i ask you to read the news carefully before posting distorted accounts here.

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"Sounds to me like she is one of those religious nutters who want all the Harry Potter books burnt because they deal with witchcraft"
for you may be . lol
btw what does harry potter have to do with it ( those books are in a clearly fake list of books ( with some books published after the time of alleged incident)going the round in internet she supposedly wanted banned. so why allude to smears? fool)
(btw doesn't pope want to ban harry potter ? does that mean we have to smear catholics ? )

given your willful distortions of even the sources you cite that you have some deep seated issues with women in power .
to repeat, given your willful distortion of facts ,
you (who listens to "sounds"), sounds like a plain nutters to me, :-)

Anonymous said...

stupid nut at it again. Talking about politics he doesn't know of.

sittingnut said...

what great enlightened thought. huh? lol

T said...

Back to SL...I think it is time to bite back on the Tamilnadu fuckfaces..

Would you publish my comments regarding the tamilnadu nattami circus on the following blog page, please?

http://srilankan-news.blogspot.com/